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Below is a copy of the interview with Parliament Speaker Mike Johnson, who was broadcast on “confronting the nation with Margaret Brennan” on October 5, 2025.

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Margaret Brennan: We are now moving to the government now on its fifth day. house. Mike Johnson speaker joins us from Capitol Hill. Good morning, speaker. Anyone there to negotiate with him?

Mike Johnson speaker: No, Margaret. Good morning. It is good to hear your voice. It is a kind of calm here. It was during the past few days, which is very unfortunate, because we are talking about real people who are negatively affected throughout the country in some ways and in very large ways. I pray to God that more Democrats in the Senate reach their senses and do the right thing, and when they have the next opportunity on Monday to vote to open the government, I certainly hope they will do so.

Margaret Brennan: Well, I have sent legislators to their areas to their areas, indicating that we are likely to have another week of this closure. I have mentioned that federal workers in the real world, including our army, will miss their first salaries on October 15 or 16. How long should workers plan to be without this income?

Johnson speaker: Well, the only person who can answer this question is your next guest and this is Chuck Schumer, because the house did his job. The reason is that Republicans in the House of Representatives work in their regions, and I think Democrats in the House of Representatives should be so, because we did that. We passed a very clean decision two weeks ago, and we sent it to the Senate. It is very important to note what it was. It was only 24 pages, Margaret. It was a goodwill effort to keep the government open for another seven weeks so that the Republicans and Democrats, in two parties, could work together to finance the government through the process of credits. Chuck Schumer’s voice always for those in the past. In fact, he did it 13 times during the four years of the Biden administration, but suddenly leads the Democrats in the Senate not to do so, and there is one simple reason. They need a political cover from the maximum left pillar of the base. He is afraid, Chuck Schumer, individually- ask him about it. He fears that he will get a challenge from Marxi in his party, because this is the new wave in New York. This is what is going on around it. Chuck Schumer is trying to show a battle against the president, the Republicans, and the real Americans are harmful to the process of this political game.

Margaret Brennan: Well. Well, Democrats, as you know, want another conversation regarding the expansion of some tax subsidies that reduce the cost of some health care that is purchased through the obamacare market. Nevertheless, despite this, you are talking about this policy, our CBS poll that we issued today is not seen as not seen by any party’s position as worth stopping this government. Democrats want to talk about tax credits. As you know, the outstanding pricing is already determined now, even if this does not end until the end of the year. “Raise the costs of families that are not little notice and may strip them of access to care simply,” said your Republican colleague, Jin Keganis. Doesn’t it have a point here?

Johnson speaker: There are a lot of points that must be presented on it, and we are ready to talk about it, negotiate and do all of this, but they are trying to create this red crane here now. Margaret, this is the financing measure, which is a very simple thing, very traditional it has been done here all the time. This is how you work now. We need more time around the clock to finish the credits process. We have time to discuss this very complex issue. It is not simple. There should be repairs to this support, because there is a lot of fraud, waste and abuse involved in them. There- there are 535 members of Congress in the House of Representatives and the Senate. There are A- Perhaps there are 400 different ideas on how to fix it, so we need a little time to do this. We do not say that we will not negotiate it. We say turning the lights again in Congress. Get paid forces TSA agents and paid border agents who are trying to protect us. Restore healthcare programs that are stopped for old warriors and recipients for medical care who get the health of the house, all of this is now stopped, and the restoration of flood securing programs in Fema in the middle of the hurricane-

Margaret Brennan: – Right. Run lights .—

Johnson speaker: – WIC programs for young women. We got this fixed now.

Margaret Brennan: But only to explain what you were saying only, do I hear you properly? You, as a speaker about the house, want to see tax credit being extended at a future date? Is this what you say?

Johnson speaker: No, I haven’t taken any position yet, because this is not the way this process works. We are in a traded body-

Margaret Brennan:-correct, I ask your position because you said-

Johnson speaker:-I am a home speaker-

Margaret Brennan:-You will be ready to talk about it-

Johnson speaker:- I tell you my position- I am a home speaker. What I must do is to draw consensus between 435 members in my body. I do not go out and expect what the final conclusion will be. Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jeffrez, the last of which was in the oval office with the president only five or six days ago, kept the government open so that we could do this job. We have always planned to do this. Again, this funding is running out on December 31. October is a decisive time for us to reach this. But we cannot when Chuck Schumer continue to vote to close the government for political reasons. This is what is happening here purely and simply.

Margaret Brennan: You think you have time here, but our partner in the Health Policy Think Tank KFF reported that 80 % of all the distinct tax credits went to Obamacare Legeres in the Trump states. Red states. Are you concerned at all that this position can bring in reverse results, that waiting for talking about tax credit may harm you and may harm voters?

Johnson speaker: No. No, because we have time to do this again. Funding is not running out until December 31. We are talking about the deadline on September 30, which was now approved to keep the government open so that Republicans and Democrats can hold this debate. She closed Chuck Schumer because he needs a political argument now. 100 % Margaret, this is what is going on. Play the tape. Play the Chuck Schumer, saying constantly over the past thirty years that CRS is dangerous, destructive and selfish. He is now his leader, and he is on him. Republicans in the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the White House want to keep the government open, and our voice to do so. Democrats close it-

Margaret Brennan: But you are committed to doing this conversation about health care. What do I understand?

Johnson speaker: It was so- he would have always continued. They do this. This is the red herring. They are trying to try to say that this battle is now about it. It was not even a battle. It is a joke. Call him.

Margaret Brennan: Well, the director of the Economic Council, Kevin Haysit, was on another network this morning, and said that it was up to the President of the United States for the time of when the collective workers would start. It seems that it indicates that the president uses those RIFS, and those threats of strength, as a financial lever here. Do you know how quickly workers’ demobilization starts?

Johnson speaker: I don’t know. I expect it to be soon, because Chuck Schumer stopped the sources of financing and anyone is the head of the office-

Margaret Brennan:-Do you want it as a lift?-

Johnson speaker:- No, nor the president. no. The president wants to open the government. Shomer and Hakim personally appealed to his office to do this, and they said no, because they want to do so. Do you know what they offer? They want to spend $ 1.5 trillion, and they want to return the taxpayer dollars hard to finance health care for illegal foreigners. It is in their bill. Go to speaker And you see it yourself. Page 57, Section 2141. They use this for political games, which is shameful, and real people are hurt.

Margaret Brennan: Well, you looked at this text, it does not explicitly say what you refer to-

Johnson speaker:-Good, wait for a minute-

Margaret Brennan:-But unauthorized immigrants are clear to the benefits of ACA-

Johnson speaker: – This is very important. Yes, he does. He- he simply says, they want to cancel the changes we made in the tax reduction in working families, a beautiful big bill.

Margaret Brennan:-This is a right-

Johnson speaker: – What are these changes to remove health care to illegal foreigners. Remove all fraud, waste and abuse. The Congress Budget Office, and the Central Bank of Oman said it achieved the desired result. They will save approximately $ 200 billion. The Chuck Schumer’s proposal on page 57 wants to restore 200 billion dollars in taxpayers to pay the price of illegal foreigners and others without citizens. This is a fact, and you can check this on my website speaker. Do not trust me. Look at Chuck Shomer’s special leaves.

Margaret Brennan: House speaker, Mike Johnson, thank you for your time. This morning, we will return with a lot of “confrontation with the nation”. Stay with us.