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Below is an interview with Senator Rand Paul, Democrat Kentucky, which was broadcast on “Facing the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on July 13, 2025.

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Margaret Brennan: We are now going to the Chairman of the Internal Security Committee, Senator Rand Paul, who joins us from Bolling Green, Kentucky. Good morning to you, Senator.

Sen. Rand Paul: Thank you. Thank you for your presence

Margaret Brennan: Today is a one -year sign since the candidate Trump was launched in Bater, Pennsylvania. I issued a accountable report, we have taken a look at that, and details that the assets have requested assets by the secret service, including requests submitted over the phone, and were rejected. You also say that the former secret service manager made false allegations under the oath when Kimberly Chidel said there is no denial. Was she misleading or accusing her of lying?

Sen. Paul: She did not tell the truth. She said there are no required assets. We have found at least four occasions, in fact, maybe five occasions, where the requests were submitted. The primary demand provided by both Trump’s secret service details, as well as his struggle. The two counterparts were rejected even Betr. So, thank God, on that day in Bater County, Pennsylvania, this was the first time that it was allowed to combat antibiotics. If he had no opposite models, this killer would have appeared again- he appeared again to continue the shooting, when he was taken out. But, thank God we had retired people there. But why were they rejected for months and months? When they finally asked them, they appeared mysteriously. They found them where they need it. They did not try hard enough. Therefore, it was a series of mistakes. It was just one mistake after another. When we talked to the people responsible for security, everyone finger to someone else. We said, who was responsible for this ceiling, the ceiling that the killer was putting with a direct scene line. Nobody wants responsibility. Everyone said he is another person. There was time to take it out of the stage. A suspicious person with the researcher who has become the shooter, often seen by the police with doubt. This should have been sufficient to get the president out of the theater. Even with his presence on the surface, there were about three minutes when he could have taken the stage. However, no one was released. Some of these people can be responsible for another presidential candidate. In fact, this is a risk that someone- a person responsible for Bater, could be responsible again. This is not true.

Margaret Brennan: Well, the US president said he was satisfied with the answers he received regarding what happened wrong. However, again to the point related to not telling the truth to Congress: The report found that there are 10 occasions in which resources were requested, rejected or not fill. Indeed, when it comes to Bater, the request of an anti -park drone was submitted over the phone. So, when you say someone does not say the truth, was there no record of requests and denial? Was this intentionally? Or is this like a culture of covering up inside the agency?

Sen. Paul think he was a cultural cover -up for the agency. They did not want to evaluate the blame. They did not want to look internally. They wanted to deduct any of their actions that may have led to this. This was a cover at the moment of your ass, and I think they know. There is no way because she did not know that these requests were submitted. Thus, yes, it was a great failure. If you talk to the current president of the secret service, which was the details of Trump’s bullets, Trump has a great deal of confidence, he will admit that these failures. But even the disciplinary action they took recently. They only took because I called. I wanted to know who was disciplined. We did not make the names, but I wanted to know who was disciplined and what was discipline. For a year they refused to tell me that. They told me that a week ago, I watched news reports, but some people were just disciplined two weeks ago, so they will not discipline anyone until she called and asked them what they did. But, in the end, no one was released. The supervisor who heard about the person on the surface, who did not tell the details immediately by removing the president from the theater, was there for several minutes there. He remained in his job. He recently retired, but he remained in his job. Therefore, no, I think the investigation conducted by the Secret Service was not enough. But for this reason we need to supervise in Congress.

Margaret Brennan: Will all requests for assets be submitted in writing and not over the phone, so that people can refuse to do so ever to help?

Sen. Rand Paul: Yes, I think they were also made in writing, and I think some have been made over the phone, but I think those that were made over the phone were following the things they did in writing. Someone was just begging for assets. And he thought about the matter, President Trump had unusual marches, regardless of the political perspective of it, had unusual gatherings that have unusual risks, much better, much greater risks than its presence, 200 people in a hall where everyone is completely presented and the location is safe. These things really take a lot of details. But we asked the secret service that was responsible for this ceiling? How can you walk through three in the afternoon and see this ceiling? No one passed. No one was responsible. Everyone said, oh, she was responsible for the ceiling or was responsible for the ceiling. Nobody actually admits that he is responsible for Betrler.

Margaret Brennan: So there is the big and beautiful draft law that the president requested gives 1.2 billion dollars to secret service. Is money suitable for that? What do you say to the family of the man who killed that day? Will we know ever the shooter?

Sen. Rand Paul: As you know, I think we will not know the motivation, and take it with the nominal value. I know often when we don’t get something and doubt something, we believe that lies to the government on us. See, I have doubts about the government on many levels, but I think this level, they have done their best and I do not think there is a secret answer they do not reveal to us. I think they do not know. What we know is the failure of security, and that Corey Compleratore can be saved by obtaining better security on that day. This boy was seen four hours before the shooting. See again 45 minutes ago. Three minutes before the shooting, the crowd chanted, a man on the surface, a man on the surface. 45 seconds to go as he collects his rifle. 45 seconds is a long time. No one told them to get the president out of the theater. An unforgettable security was supposed to be launched, but it should have been launched, and he should not be responsible for this type of this type of responsibility again.

Margaret Brennan: On the issue of warning, but on a different topic. This is Friday, the deadline for the Senate and the House of Representatives to vote on a plan to return about $ 9 billion to foreign aid, including NPR and PBS support. Some of your Republican colleagues, such as tours like Murkowski and Collins, said they are concerned about discounts on local radio and public broadcasters in their areas. We looked at your case in Kentucky, public broadcasters make decisive emergency warnings to the government if there is a storm, for example. Are you worried that this type of discounts will put people at risk?

Sen. Rand Paul: You know, I started on public television, Kate in Kentucky, as a commentator of the taxpayer group that started in it. So, as you know, I am not an enemy of public television, but at the same time, we have a deficit of $ 2 trillion, and what we will offer to him is a spending reduction at $ 9 billion. Can we, and do we start to reduce 9 billion? Yes, if I have Drozers and I can plan for it, and I can provide the package, I love the idea of discounts in all areas with a smaller percentage. So, instead of eating 100 % of public TV, what you do is to take 6 % of everything. But the only way that you succeed is that you should literally take 6 % of each dollar, and then you have to know how to make it work so that it is not absorbed by the poor or the needy in our country. You can do that. With a shark plan, you can balance your budget within six years, within five years, but it requires a 6 % real discount of everything. But I think people are more willing to accept their haircut on the things they love if everyone accepts the same level of cutting.

Margaret Brennan: Do you say there you are still voting in favor of this? Are there 51 Republicans who voted to reduce and withdraw all this funding?

Sen. Rand Paul: I think it will be very close. I don’t know if it will be already modified, but I can’t look frankly with Americans in the face and say I will do something about the deficit if I can’t reduce 9 billion. Although there are people who offer arguments for that, and I can offer an argument for a different way to reduce them, we will provide $ 9 billion and a deficit of $ 2.2 trillion. So we have to cut spending. Absolutely to reduce spending.

Margaret Brennan: A record increase for the debt ceiling that has just occurred in the draft law that did not vote for him, but the Republicans did so. Senator Paul, thank you for your time today. We will return.